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Interview
with Shivlal Yadav
Hon. Secretary,
Hyderabad Cricket Association and Former Indian Test
Cricketer
Congratulations
for you and your HCA’s achievement in constructing
the Visaka International Uppal Stadium and hosting
the two important first class games (Duleep Trophy
- South Zone Vs West Zone and Pakistan Vs India A).
So what’s next big thing with this stadium now?
Thank
You. Most likely we are going to get the India-South
Africa One Dayer and that would be in November. So
we are hoping that it would be the first one day international
played at the Visaka International Stadium.
But there was
a talk that this stadium would be hosting its 1st
ODI against Sri Lanka, what has happened to that?
Sri Lanka is
playing 7 matches and as per rotation policy of the
venues we don’t come under that, most definitely
we would be getting the South Africa match.
What
were the challenges that HCA had faced while constructing
this stadium?
Oh there were quite a few challenges that we had encountered
right from legal point of view because the land was
allotted to us by the State Government of Andhra Pradesh.
Then thereafter there was a court case pending from
the lower court. In fact we went from the lowest court
to the highest court and till Supreme Court we had
gone for this case. Some how we had overcome all of
that and now the stadium is standing there at Uppal.
People
all around the world want to know what kind of wickets
the Visaka International Stadium offers. So what's
your answer about this?
Well if it’s a One Dayer then the wicket would
be batting oriented wicket. We want good scores to
come up because people love to watch the big scoring
matches in One Dayers. Whereas if it’s a test
match… that is once we are allotted the test
status we would give a sporting wicket with assistance
to both the batsmen and the bowlers.
You have been
a Test Cricketer, you have been a National Selector,
and you have been the Indian team Manager and a Cricket
board official. Of all these which has been the best
role you have enjoyed?
Well definitely
I enjoyed my playing days, nothing that can beat that.
But I find that as an administrator, it is much more
difficult and you have to face different kinds of
things and challenges that you have to encounter.
I find this job more taxing.
Let's rewind
back to almost 26 years back, on September 19th, 1979
you had made your Test Match debut against Australia
at Bangalore in the 2nd Test. You took 7 wickets in
that match, do you remember any special moments of
that match now?
Yes I do remember
that match very well because that being my first test
match of my career. In fact I would like to thank
the Late M.L.Jaisimha for guiding me during that period
because he was the National Selector then and was
giving me lots of tips during that test match. I just
had to bowl accordingly and that gave me the 7 wickets.
Well I do remember my 1st wicket which was that of
the opening batsman Andrew Hilditch, who was caught
by substitute fielder Arun Lal at deep square leg.
Thereafter in the 2nd innings, I got Hilditch lbw
and the upcoming batsman in those days, Allan Border
clean bowled. I do remember M.L.Jaisimha walking up
to me during Tea and telling me to go round the stumps
and bowl the arm ball. That’s how I got Border;
my arm ball had crashed onto the stumps in the gap
between his bat and pad.
Tell
us more about that series, you had a great time taking
24 wickets in the 5 tests you played.
See those days there wasn’t much of publicity
given to the cricket. Though myself and Kapil were
the top wicket takers, I mean if today had we done
that we would have been taken some where else. Those
days even though someone took 24 wickets in a series,
it didn't mean much because the publicity and the
television coverage was just beginning then. Today
the media is so vibrant that for just one performance
a player is taken right on top and the moment you
don’t do well they send you down. Those days
it wasn’t that vibrant atleast.
Harbhajan had
taken 32 wickets, you have taken 24...so does that
mean that Aussies in general do have this weakness
against good off spinners?
Well if you
have a look at the history of Australian Cricket right
from the days of Jim Laker to the days of Erapalli
Prasanna, Venkatraghavan and then to myself, Harbhajan
or for that matter even John Emburey, Aussies have
struggled against good off spinners. I mean may be
it’s because they have had lots of left handers
in their teams and also they had this difficulty of
handling the incoming ball. If you see the history,
yes off spinners have always done well against Aussies.
After playing
just 6 first class games, you got a big break getting
selected for the Indian Board President’s XI
against West Indies and 7 months later you had played
your 1st Test. What do you think about such stunning
progress in your career?
Basically as
you said I got my big break playing for the Board’s
team against Alvin Kalicharan’s team. That was
played at CCI, Bombay. It so happened that I remember
very clearly the captain of the side was Parthasarthy
Sharma and he wasn’t aware that I was in the
team as an off spinner. And in the 1st innings I wasn’t
given to bowl till tea time. During the Tea Break,
one of the selectors, Rajsingh Durganpur walked upto
him and he said that he was also having an off spinner
in the side and you can try him as well. Then thereafter
3 wickets were remaining and I was finally given the
ball and I took 2 out of the 3 wickets. In the 2nd
innings, I was introduced into the attack as the 1st
change bowler and thereby I got six wickets. (Laughs)
So that’s how I remember and had it not been
for Rajsingh reminding Parthasarthy Sharma, I wouldn’t
have played for India.
If we have a
closer look at your career, prior to getting into
the Board's team or the Indian team, you hardly played
5-6 first class games and you just picked up 17 wickets.
So what was the performance of yours that got you
into both the sides?
Before getting
into the Indian team, I was also given an opportunity
to play for South Zone against Australia at the Lal
Bahadur Stadium here in Hyderabad and I got couple
of wickets in that game. Not only my performances
at that time but may be the selectors thought they
saw some talent in me. It could also be the way I
was bowling and may be with Prasanna and Venkatraghavan
both in their decline, they might have seen something
in me and then I got the break.
Talk us through
about Shivlal Yadav’s role in one of the greatest
tests ever played – the tied test at Madras,
1986.
That is one
of the games which you can never forget till you die.
I remember I had played a crucial role in the outcome
of the game. The first four days of that test were
dull and boring, I mean it was typical Madras heat
and at the same time plenty of runs were being scored.
It so happened that Allan Border gave us all a surprise
by declaring on the 5th day. He gave us 348 runs in
about 330 minutes in a day’s play and we all
just sat over it and decided to have a shot at the
target. And it so happened that for every 50 runs
we scored, we lost a wicket, but the chase continued.
When I walked in, we had 13 runs to win and Ray Bright
and Greg Matthews were bowling. Ravi Shastri walked
upto me and said if you want to take a chance take
it in this over from Bright now. I remember I was
nervous like hell and didn’t exactly know what
to do at that point of time. I just blocked the 1st
ball and it just occurred to me before the 2nd ball,
it was preplanned. I mean it was a premeditated shot
and I took a chance, went down the track and completed
the hoik and luckily I connected. You wouldn’t
believe it Allan Border was right down my neck standing
at silly point and was shouting “catch it…catch
it…catch it”. For a moment I thought Greg
Ritchie would take the catch but fortunately Ritchie
couldn’t jump up and catch it, the ball went
over the ropes and into the pavilion for a six. That
was a very exciting moment for me, my whole body was
shaking, Ravi walked towards me and said great shot,
now let’s concentrate on taking singles and
finish off the match. Ray Bright then got me out bowled
behind my legs. I went for a sweep shot and the ball
hit my pads and then hit the back of the bat and then
went onto hit the stumps. Then Maninder walked into
the middle with 4 more runs to win. Then the equation
became 1 run after Ravi had picked up a couple and
a single and that left Mani with 1 run and you know
what happened then, Mani was out lbw by Greg Matthews
and rest is history. The final outcome was great for
the game of cricket because had it been just another
victory, people wouldn't have remembered about it
and we wouldn’t have been talking about it today
even after 18 years.
So do you reckon
that the six you hit was a decisive blow in that Test
Match?
Well if you
see the scorecard it looks to be decisive and ironically
that was the only sixer I hit in my career.
The famous Melbourne
Test in 1981, where India had won you had fractured
your toe but you continued to bat and make a useful
contribution. Could you talk about that innings?
Before my injury
we played a Test Match at Adelaide and before that
Indian team had lost a 4 day match against South Australia.
I was batting with Dilip Doshi and I was shielding
him by taking most of the strike. I got out to the
leg spinner Peter Sleep and after that I got lot of
lecture from Sunil Gavaskar and he fired at me saying
that my approach was totally unprofessional and I
had no business in playing such a kind of shot and
throw my wicket at that stage. This incident got stuck
in my mind. In the Adelaide Test, I was sent in as
the night watchman in the 1st innings and I had a
partnership with Chetan Chauhan. I managed to bat
for an hour and got something like 15 runs. Then in
the 2nd Test we were struggling at 128/8 and were
on the brink of the defeat but myself and Karsan Ghavri
batted all the mandatory overs and saved the Test
match. In the Melbourne test, I was badly injured,
I knew that the injury was very serious but with G.R.Vishwanath
almost reaching his hundred I didn’t want to
leave the field with just the last man Dilip Doshi
to come. I somehow managed to bat and Vishy got his
century and got out. After Doshi had come and got
out and I remained not out on 20. That is what was
the Gavaskar effect on me, after he had fired me up
few days back to this innings I had decided that any
stage I wouldn’t throw away my wicket and just
hang in there and get as many runs as possible.
The Gymkhana
grounds is reckoned to have the bounciest pitches
in the country, was there any intentional efforts
on HCA’s part to get the track bouncy?
Basically we
are trying out, we are experimenting with the tracks.
We want our boys to develop their game by playing
on different kinds of tracks. Gymkhana is a bouncy
track but we have other tracks which have even bounce
and where you can play your strokes. But now we have
changed the Gymkhana track also by not leaving too
much of grass on the wicket. We want to see if we
can still have the bounce after removing the grass
and encourage strokeplay because ultimately the batters
have to get the runs, then only the game becomes attractive.
Let’s
talk about the Hyderabad Ranji team; if we have a
look at the recent scorecards, Hyderabad team has
struggled to bat for more than one day. Why is it
so and do you think the batting needs to improve by
a long way?
As I said before,
Gymkhana wicket has been seamer friendly and all of
our Ranji matches last year have been at the Gymkhana
except the Semis. Not many teams have come up with
good scores last year here and even the big teams
have struggled to put the runs on the board. We had
experimented last year with the wicket and now after
changing the wicket, we hope that our boys would build
the big innings. That is why we have our 3-days league
cricket for the first division teams at different
wickets like Gymkhana, Uppal and others. Strokeplay
is good but at the same time strokeplay with common
sense is required and we want the boys to bat for
long time. At the same time, I am happy to inform
everybody that we had won the U22 tournament, our
U19 boys did well and lost in the finals, U17 boys
lost in the Quarter finals. I mean these are all All
India tournaments and shows that we have plenty of
talent available in Hyderabad and given proper chances,
I am sure we would have few players representing the
country in the future.
We youngsters
haven't watched you much on the television, so could
you describe Shivlal Yadav - the Off Spinner?
I was not a
bowler who would bowl fast in the air, I relied on
my flight and had big turn. As I grew older I learnt
the importance of flight and that having big turn
wasn’t the only thing that’s required.
Like Prasanna I believed that flight was the most
important weapon for a spinner.
Okay one last
question, what do you think about the progress of
your son Arjun Yadav in his cricketing career?
I would
have been happy had he gone little higher in the level
he’s playing at the moment now. The way he had
shown the promise during his U19 days, he hasn’t
met the expectations at this level. Unfortunately
he has been having some injuries, like last year he
had a severe back injury, he broke his finger and
all this was in the middle of the season. So he had
his setbacks. Let’s see if he can comeback from
them and perform because ultimately if you want to
play the higher grade of cricket, you got to attract
the selectors through your performances and there’s
no other substitute for that.